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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.04.28 15:51:00 -
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A merc corp can be easily done
The ppl who will benefit most will be EVE players who have lots of ISK to blow on hitting up a planet which may make them billions in the long term
The DUST alliances and corps themseleves will be self sufficent and i doubt they will hire each other to do something when they should be able to do it themselves
As for prices if attacking the alliance/corp who wants it done will have to fork out for the clones - 80mil and add in equipment lost they may do a deal to cover the losses also or if the mercs fail to complete the attack and lose they could maybe cover the losses like 50%
Defending wise clones is no problem, the defenders just pay for the equipment lost in battle
But no profit in my examples, so just say attacking is 80mil + 50 in lost assets, they could round it to 150mil for a loss but 200mil for a win so they get a smaller profit for losing but bigger for winning
Defending is generally cheaper so it could be straight 100mil
Add in the ability to make equipment that may lower the price overall so the EVE corps/alliances can make what the mercs need and provide it to them
Being a merc solider is harder tho, a DUST corp could screw you over easily as could the EVE corp unless you ask for so much upfront |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:09:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Zion Shad wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:How will a merc corp take a district for another corp anyway? If they go in with 16, then that means they will be responsible for handling the clone cost and transfers. But I'm going to assume that the newly acquired district will now be in the merc's name.
I'm thinking that a merc corp will be better off just ringing 13 members (as they can only enter via squads). That way....their cost is cheaper and corps will be able to afford them more frequently. Because once you start approaching 9 figure costs, corps will not be able to use afford them. And when you think about it.....most of the corps that will utilize merc corp services will be ones who may not be able to hold their own territory (number-wise or skill-wise).
I'm thinking anywhere from $10M - $20M win or lose is reasonable. And if the mercs win, then you reimburse their gear cost on top of the agreed upon fee. I mean, listen.......any deal can be struck. It depends on the negotiating parties, tbh
Edit: Man, mercenary work sounds like much more fun :) The ringers in Squads is the best way to go. Use your own Clones and don't pay for anyone elses. The situation I can see using Merc's for my corp would be when times arise and we might need more man power to defend. Other times would be if we feel we need a bit more of an edge on an enemy team. Dubbs (and any one intrested) we may want to work on an unbiased Merc channel where any skilled player and Corp CEO/Director can be permitted to communicate during PC. That way negotiations and squads can be formed in real time and on a moments noticed. Get a lot of trusted admin and set chat rules so if ever a deal goes south then remove any party that backs on their deal. Wonder what would be the going rate for individual mercs :D. But to be honest, I'm not sure how I feel about ringers though. I think that it will ruin the allure of planetary conquest for me. If not ruin, it could definitely damper it.
Going rate for an individual merc will vary greatly
Take me for example
Vehicle pilot, both dropships, both LAVs and both HAVs upto the top with perfect support skills and the best turrets
My standard HAV fit is 1mil, but if i use the Surya/Sagaris it tends to rise to about 2.2-2.5mil
Now ther is 2 way this could be done, you could pay me a lump sum say 25mil for 1 battle, in that battle you will cover all my equipment expenses aswell and we can have an agreement on how hard i should push for the win so that could mean me dropping 10HAVs or even more but only on the basis that you will cover the expenses - of course you could shaft me after the battle but then as a merc i cannot really take revenge except blacklisting you and your corps name and send out a warning to any and all merc/merc corps and alliances that you are not to be trusted and you will not honor the deal/agreement
The 2nd way is that you pay me a lump sum 25mil but this time you will only cover equipment expenses to 10fits, so i can bring in 10 HAVs but no more because it would cost me so if i did use all 10fits i then will run around in free fits until the end of the match, if i dont use all 10fits then its cheaper to you but if we did win it would be a nice bonus if you did pay out 10fits instead of 6 for example - of course you could shaft me after the battle but then as a merc i cannot really take revenge except blacklisting you and your corps name and send out a warning to any and all merc/merc corps and alliances that you are not to be trusted and you will not honor the deal/agreement
The only way a merc can get paid is if he gets paid upfront at this moment, even asking for equipment coverage they can still shaft him so in that case essentially as a merc i would ask for ISK upfront but tbh if i was a corp member i wouldnt shaft a merc/merc corp as the bad publicity is still publicity but also if you need help you cant hire because no one will touch you except for scrubs maybe because of previous actions |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:02:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Mercs can deddfinitely shaft you as well...if paid up front. They can make a deal with you and at the same time, accept a contract from the opposition. "Whatever he's paying you, I'll double it".
But a smart merc can play both sides at once to get the best deal but it doesnt mean that it the best deal in the long run since your rep could easily be ruined by greed
A merc which holds himself and corp to the contract has honor and it can go along way
Problem is tho how does the merc get the money, atm we cant give random mercs money so unless the enemy put it into his account then he could go for it if he wanted, or he could say no or he could say yes get the money and then no, or get the money tell the original corp x has paid y more that you what is your counter offer?
1 merc doesnt make much of a difference, but a merc corp can basically shaft you and give the district up as a consequence |
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